Is UK Election Result A Warning Sign To Democrats For Presidential Election Of 2020?

The massive defeat for Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party in the United Kingdom, and Prime Minister Boris Johnson gaining legitimacy for Brexit, is a shock that might be a strong warning to the Democrats for the Presidential Election of 2020.

It IS possible that Donald Trump could win a second term, and IF Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren were to be the Democratic nominee, portrayed as too far to the left, that could be the result.

It could be that this promoted the moderate centrist view–that Joe Biden, or Pete Buttigieg, or Amy Klobuchar–might be the best choice for the Democrats.

3 comments on “Is UK Election Result A Warning Sign To Democrats For Presidential Election Of 2020?

  1. Former Republican December 17, 2019 6:09 pm

    Agree with Martin Longman. People in this country had better pay attention to what’s going on.

    The GOP Doesn’t Care About Your Experts

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/12/17/the-gop-doesnt-care-about-your-experts/

    Steve Benen says, “In theory, lawmakers charged with assessing the seriousness of Trump’s misconduct should value the judgment of the nation’s leading scholars.” But, as we all know, members of the modern Republican Party do not value the opinions of scholars, scientists, or experts of any kind. Rather, they hold these people up as elitists who look down on ordinary Americans. As Rep. Jim Jordan said during the House Judiciary Committee hearing that led to articles of impeachment, “They don’t like the 63 million people who voted for this President. All of us in flyover country, all of us from Ohio, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Texas, they don’t like us.”

    But whether Republicans want to listen or not, over 750 legal scholars have concluded that Trump has committed impeachable offenses and over 750 historians have just co-signed a letter concluding the same thing. Their conclusions are based on their understanding of what the Founding Fathers feared and intended when they included presidential impeachment in the Constitution.

    On that score, see if what Alexander Hamilton wrote sounds applicable to Trump:

    [Hamilton understood, as he wrote in 1792, that the republic remained vulnerable to the rise of an unscrupulous demagogue, “unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents … despotic in his ordinary demeanour.” That demagogue, Hamilton said, could easily enough manage “to mount the hobby horse of popularity – to join in the cry of danger to liberty – to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion – to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day.” Such a figure, Hamilton wrote, would “throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”]

    It’s almost like Alexander Hamilton had clearer foresight than Nostradamus. It makes me wonder if he based this merely on his understanding of human nature or perhaps had some specific historical examples in mind.

    The Founding Fathers were children of the Enlightenment, and it’s not difficult to know what they would think about a political party that devalues education, scholarship and expertise. But, whether we like it or not, that’s where we are as a country, being led by resentful know-nothing demagogues and their enablers.

    If that doesn’t concern you, then this certainly should:

    [President Donald Trump, the first modern president to face impeachment during his first term in the White House, now leads his top Democratic rivals in his bid for a second, a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds.
    The national survey, taken as the House of Representatives planned an impeachment vote and the Senate a trial, showed Trump defeating former Vice President Joe Biden by 3 percentage points, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by 5 points, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren by 8 points.
    In hypothetical head-to-head contests, Trump also led South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg by 10 points and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg by 9.]

    Over in the United Kingdom, the left was just beaten down to a level not seen since the 1930s. Here in the United States, it’s time for people to get serious about the threat we face.

  2. Rustbelt Democrat December 17, 2019 6:10 pm

    The USA Today poll is weird. It has an unnamed 3rd party candidate taking far more of the vote than has occurred since 1992.
    In any event, it’s good to not stay complacent. Trump can win in 2020, and he will openly use all foreign help, including espionage, to do it. His lawyer Rudy Guiliani is still traipsing around to do it. The GOP seems okay with it, so if not removed from office it’ll only get worse.
    Democrats, independents, and the few sensible Republicans opposing the Trump regime have to be vigilant, and understand the 2020 election is vital to our Republic. If the corrupt and treasonous Trump regime prevails, we may never recover. Sadly, many Americans are fine with it, which means we have to out organize and vastly outvote them. Or else.

  3. Princess Leia December 17, 2019 6:11 pm

    Factoring in this unusual poll into a recent average, Biden still leads Trump in national polling by over 6 points, Sanders by 4. However, with its nebulous third party candidate option, it definitely highlights the danger of an anti-establishment third party candidate in the GE.

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